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Tarkus
Posted: May 6 2008, 10:45 AM
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Last night my samurize config for weather was working fine. This morning I have errors in the weather2004 area of my config. All the weather items work in my config EXCEPT the forecast data; which displays "ERROR: Bad or missing query param..."

I'm thinking weather.com has rolled out some changes...

I hope this is still being maintained. And thanks to the author for sharing this.

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Posted: May 6 2008, 11:40 AM
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Same thing here, seems the website has been updated and breaks the weather plugin.
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PolliSoft
Posted: May 6 2008, 12:31 PM
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Hi,

I got this a couple of days ago. Even if I tried to update my profile on the website, my Weather plugin doesn't work.

"We are contacting you because you are a registrant for the weather.com XML Data Feed (the “Service”). We are providing you with IMPORTANT INFORMATION REGARDING THE CONTINUATION OF YOUR ACCESS TO THE SERVICE. Your registered application may or may not currently be in compliance with the terms of our agreement (please refer to the developer SDK containing the license agreement – see link below). We are in the process of updating the Service to programmatically validate certain licensing conditions. Beginning May 6, 2008, if your application is not in compliance with these terms, the Service will no longer return data to your application.

The complete terms and conditions surrounding the use of the Service can be found in the developer SDK along with graphical icons that are necessary to represent the sky conditions associated with our current conditions and forecast data, and our logo. This SDK can be accessed by clicking on the link below.

http://download.weather.com/web/xoap/sdk.zip

You may update your user profile or change your product selections at any time by logging in to the weather.com registration system with the following information:

Sign-In Page: https://registration.weather.com/ursa/xmloap/step2
E-mail address: x@hotmail.com

The Service includes:

* city search capability for all locations covered by www.weather.com;
* location specific information necessary for data presentation;
* current condition information (Observations) for the selected location; and
* up to five (5) days of forecast information (the current day’s forecast plus four additional days of forecast information in consecutive order beginning with tomorrow’s forecast) for the selected location in ten (10), 12-hour day-parts.

VERY IMPORTANT

YOU MAY NOT USE THE SERVICE TO CREATE WEATHER AND WEATHER-RELATED PRODUCTS TO BE DISPLAYED ON HANDHELD OR OTHER WIRELESS DEVICES.

YOU MAY NOT USE THE SERVICE IN CONNECTION WITH AMONG OTHER THINGS, ANY BROADCAST TELEVISION, INTERACTIVE TELEVISION, CABLE TELEVISION, TELEPHONE OR DSL SERVICES, DIGITAL CABLE SERVICES, HEAD-END-IN-THE-SKY SATELLITE SYSTEMS, RADIO, PRINT PUBLICATIONS, DIGITAL BROADCAST SATELLITES, TELEMATICS, TELETEXT, VIDEO-ON-DEMAND, KIOSKI DISPLAY, OR OTHER PUBLIC OR PRIVATE INFORMATION DISPLAY UNIT, WIRE-LINE TELEPHONE, OR AS ALL OR PART OF ANY STREAMING VIDEO OR AUDIO CONTENT OR FOR DELIVERY BY ANY MEANS OTHER THAN STATIC DISPLAY ON A TRADITIONAL WEB PAGE ON YOUR WEBSITE OR DESKTOP APPLICATION.

YOU MAY NOT USE ANY LATITUDE OR LONGITUDE DATA ASSOCIATED WITH A LocID OR ZIP CODE EVEN IF SUCH INFORMATION IS RETURNED AS PART OF AN XML DOCUMENT FROM THE XML FEED.

USE OF THE SERVICE IN VIOLATION OF THE TERMS OF YOUR AGREEMENT WITH TWCi MAY RESULT IN YOUR IMMEDIATE TERMINATION AND PAYMENT OF MONETARY DAMAGES TO TWCi.

To comply with the terms of the Agreement, Your Website or Desktop Application must, among other things:

* display weather data for no more than three (3) locations at a time;
* adhere to the data request rules, usage rules, and refresh rates outlined in Exhibit B of the Agreement;
* clearly separate TWCi data from other data within a single visual element;
* identify that the weather data comes from TWCi by incorporating The Weather Channel logo containing an embedded link to the www.weather.com home page (one of 5 Required Links);
* provide four (4) promotional links, selected by TWCi and provided through the Service on each data call, back to www.weather.com for additional weather information in close proximity to the TWCi Content as set forth in Exhibit B of the Agreement; and
* be free of charge to your end-users."
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Posted: May 6 2008, 12:51 PM
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I also got the same email. After I updated my profile, I got an email with the Partner ID and License Key. The email showed another change to the request URL:

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The Service allows third-party Internet web sites (non-Mobile Web sites) and desktop applications to access a subset of the data available on www.weather.com via an on-request XML feed. The Weather Channel Interactive, Inc. (TWCi) provides this data free of charge to partners who wish to incorporate weather into their single Internet web site or single Desktop Application in exchange for five (5) promotional links, including an embedded link within the TWCi Logo, back to www.weather.com. These Required Links are specified by TWCi in the Service on each data request and are returned via the "&link=xoap" parameter of the Service. The Required Links must be displayed in close proximity to the TWCi Content.


Also, the example in the email shows how the &link=xoap paramter must be used along with a real PartnerID and License Key
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Example: a properly formatted request for Current Conditions and a Five-Day forecast for Atlanta, Georgia from the Service will appear as follows:
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http://xoap.weather.com/weather/local/30339?cc=*&dayf=5&link=xoap&prod=xoap&par=[PartnerID]&key=[LicenseKey]

where [PartnerID] is your unique Partner ID and [LicenseKey] is your unique License Key.


After I made these changes to my script, it returned an actual result, but the xml layout is a little different, creating problems for the config.

Is there a specific PartnerID and License Key for Samurize users? Or does everybody have to register individually?
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uziq
Posted: May 6 2008, 12:55 PM
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If it turns out that the Weather2004 plugin will never work again, you may want to consider using PageScraper instead. I've done a quick test and it appears to work ok. In fact, if a webpage exposes data to everyone, and doesn't use any weird obfuscation techniques, then PageScraper will most likely be able to handle it. smil3dbd4d6422f04.gif

But, hopefully, torsius will be around to fix his plugin (if it's possible to fix). Someone may want to send him a message asking for help.
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Posted: May 6 2008, 12:56 PM
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agh, great... smil3dbd4d75edb5e.gif, well, and what we must do now? must i do the .dll or something like that?
Please, a little of help smil3dbd4ddd6835f.gif
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NiB
  Posted: May 6 2008, 04:21 PM
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hell hell hell !!!

i can still access current infos (the kind of informations i can also get by looking at the window), but no way to access forecast... i just receive a short xml... Bad or missing query param.


If it's just some change in query and the format of the xml data returned, it should not be too hard to fix...

hope Torsius is still around and has time to fix that

Torsius help us !!! we need our forecasts !

NiB

PS : just sent a few $ to support you, plz fix that issue and go drink a beer smil3dbd4e4c2e742.gif

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Posted: May 6 2008, 04:44 PM
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Same problem here smil3dbd4d8676346.gif

Already got a PartnerID & LicenseKey

This post has been edited by Foxbat on May 6 2008, 04:49 PM
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KMDonlon
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I'll send Torsius a note, I see him on my IM all the time... hang tight folks.... and Uziq brings up a good point... page scraper may be the best way to go for now and it should be future proof....


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Posted: May 6 2008, 09:52 PM
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Uhmmm this sucks! It not only doesn't work anymore but it completely crashes my dock everytime I try to load it. Baaad weather.com!! smil442f1b21af6b9.gif
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BurnOmania
Posted: May 7 2008, 12:50 AM
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Same here, not working any more since May 5. Plus the config keep crashing all the time. HELP !!! smil3dbd4d75edb5e.gif
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Posted: May 7 2008, 01:19 AM
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I feel your pain guys, I've been using weather 2004 for a LONG time, and now all I get are my local and custom radar images smil3dbd4d75edb5e.gif Hopefully this will be fixed soon or there will be a 'good' alternative way. I miss my weather!

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KMDonlon
  Posted: May 7 2008, 07:45 AM
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Sent Torsius an IM message and I also sent him an email.... now we wait and see smil43e66cd850197.gif


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Posted: May 7 2008, 08:06 AM
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Guess it's time to start praying to the mighty Torsius and hope that he comes up with a fix smil43e66cd850197.gif


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Posted: May 7 2008, 09:10 AM
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QUOTE (uziq @ May 6 2008, 12:55 PM)
If it turns out that the Weather2004 plugin will never work again, you may want to consider using PageScraper instead. I've done a quick test and it appears to work ok. In fact, if a webpage exposes data to everyone, and doesn't use any weird obfuscation techniques, then PageScraper will most likely be able to handle it. smil3dbd4d6422f04.gif

But, hopefully, torsius will be around to fix his plugin (if it's possible to fix). Someone may want to send him a message asking for help.

PageScraper can link and show weather icons same as Weather2004 ? If so can you link me to a guide how to use it please ?
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