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> Official Weather.2004 Request Thread, Ask the Man Here . . .
torsius
Posted: Jul 22 2004, 10:32 PM
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i'm working on the localization, hold your horses smil3dbd4d6422f04.gif
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  Posted: Jul 23 2004, 05:52 PM
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LoL, I don't remember saying I wanted it right now....just someday! smil3dbd4daabd491.gif


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w.miki
Posted: Jul 28 2004, 10:14 AM
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other request:
Temp directory
If i could not connect to the weather.com, the plugin use the last files or datas.
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  Posted: Jul 28 2004, 05:21 PM
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but then you have old info anyway that is irrelavent...essentially N/A anyway, right?


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Posted: Jul 29 2004, 04:05 AM
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how use the IE his cache files?
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  Posted: Jul 29 2004, 05:25 PM
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  how use the IE his cache files?


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torsius
Posted: Jul 29 2004, 09:21 PM
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back when i was messing around with the connecting/downloading core, I decided to show N/A for values when not connected, and in the <update> tag it would show "no internet connection" or something - I even added a "no connection" icon setting so you'd know when you were disconnected from the internet (and thus your values would be incorrect, or not displayed at all)

i thought showing data that was really out of date would be bad/misleading/confusing

actually, I think it shows data for the first hour or something until it tries to download the new data, then it changes values to N/A when they are out of synchronization

you see? i'm looking out for everyone's best interest smil3dbd4d6422f04.gif

maybe i'll add more options in the future... but just thinking about it now gives me a headache because it was so tricky getting it to work the way it does currently
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Posted: Jul 29 2004, 09:30 PM
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cheers Torsius as always you look after your users thanks a mill. smil3dbd4d6422f04.gif


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  Posted: Jul 30 2004, 06:28 PM
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I agree Torsius, bad info or outdated info, well, then what's the point. N/A just means NOT AVAILABLE....sometimes it will be N/A...no biggie and it's not forever.
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  Posted: Jul 30 2004, 06:36 PM
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I would like to see some more details added as far as average temps for a specific day, ya know like todays average high is "blah blah" degrees and the average low for this date is "blah blah" degrees. That kind a thing...perhaps it can be yanked off of weather.com like the narrative is retrieved? Just slingin ideas out...... smil3dbd4d6422f04.gif


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Posted: Jul 31 2004, 10:54 PM
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I would like a slightly more intelligent Now and Later functions.
By this, I mean, have each look at the high temp and determine which name and image to use from that.
For instance, using the Now function, if the high temp is N/A then it's Tonight(use the night image); otherwise, it's Today.
Right now, the name changes at midnight even though weather.com does not make this change until 2 AM.
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Posted: Jul 31 2004, 11:22 PM
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Interesting appleover, I think that it is a weather.com issue and not a plugin issue...maybe I stand corrected. Good point though since a bunch of people have had issues with the now and later stuff... smil3dbd4d6422f04.gif


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Posted: Aug 1 2004, 12:11 AM
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ok i'm up for looking into this, there's 2 ways to make it smarter...

always check the temp to see if it's "n/a" and if so:

1. offset the now and later functions to display data that does not correspond to the data for the current day (ie, it's past midnight but data hasn't been updated)

2: instead of showing data for the wrong day, simply show the next forecasted data that will represents valid data for the current day (ie, what would be the "next" day in the forecast with the unsynchronized data) and wait until the data is actually updated for the to the day rollover and then display that data

neither of these approaches fit into the usage guidelines for the weather.com xml sdk, they tell you to display N/A or nothing, but i think a small fix for a tiny window of time would be ok smil3dbd4d6422f04.gif

another thing to consider is what weather.com classifies as "day" and "night", where "day" consists of the hours between 7am and 7pm and "night" is 7pm to 7am

so, anyone feeling really "in touch" with how this should be dealt with, please speak up, only highly thought-through logical attempts should be offered as a solution to this dilemma smil3dbd4d6422f04.gif
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Posted: Aug 1 2004, 01:05 AM
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Well for me between 2AM and 3AM local time, once new forecast data is downloaded, Now should display 'Today' since what was tomorrow's data (d=1) is now today's (d=0).

This is the only thing I would like to see. As far as, displaying N/A for the high in Now, I just make it transparent if it is; otherwise, it displays the high.

So, if there is a high temp in day d=0, then display Today and the day image, else display Tonight and the night image.
Although, it might be more difficult to do this with the Later function since day d=1 will always have a high temp.

Everything else works fine for me.
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No offense but if that is what weather.com shows for data then so be it...I am usually sound asleep by this time anyway and my server ain't even running...I guess it just doesn't bother me...Just my 2 cents....the day and night stuff has been blown outta proportion in my opinion smil3dbd4e29bbcc7.gif


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